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The fall of capitalism??

source: 🌎0chan ♦ tags: #socialism

#1 )) Name: Anonymous @ 2020-12-31 03:30 🌎 0chan

This bothers me, okay, so capitalism will fall and give way to socialism but people are so brainwashed to be anti-communist of leftism in general. They say you can’t kill an idea but I feel like with leftism, it somehow was killed! It’s so backwards too, people describe communism as what happens under literal capitalism, that’s a mind fuck.

#2 )) Name: Anonymous @ 2020-12-31 04:07 🌎 0chan

Capitalism was able to learn from Marxism (which, at its core, is a critique of capitalism) and grow from it.
Is this system we're under now really capitalism? I think it's a weird hybrid of socialism and capitalism. When I think of "pure capitalism" I tend to think of the black market.

Socialism is most attractive when a capitalist-inspired system is failing people, in my opinion. Because if someone is comfortable under the status quo, they're not motivated to change it!

#3 )) Name: Anonymous @ 2020-12-31 05:24 🌎 0chan

Eww. Auth-lefts make me sick. The solution is never more government.

#4 )) Name: Anonymous @ 2020-12-31 08:05 🌎 0chan

Lol
https://nitter.net/wikileaks/status/1340785639760023554

Now it makes me wonder how much of history regarding communist countries has been fake news.

#5 )) Name: Anonymous @ 2020-12-31 20:50 🌎 0chan

>>4
this video from the link is interesting, because the kbg did all of that too, only ten times more
here, in brazil, we have a saying: "flour from the same sack"
different foods are served to you, but they share the same [poison] ingredient

#6 )) Name: Anonymous @ 2021-01-01 16:58 🌎 0chan

The problem with socialist thinkers is that there are no standards for being one. It's not like becoming a dentist. You don't have to learn anything, you don't have to have a particular position on anything aside from being vaguely anti-capitalist. Being an academic doesn't seem to help. There isn't even consensus among adult self-styled Marxists about whether people should have personal budgets post capitalism, even though Marx explicitly endorsed that (Critique of the Gotha Program). I guess it's more "creative" to blabber feel-good voo about free access and gift economies.

#7 )) Name: Anonymous @ 2021-01-07 22:11 🌎 0chan


>>6
no the problem with it is it doesn't work very well

#8 )) Name: Anonymous @ 2021-01-10 15:34 🌎 0chan

>>7
Yes it doesn't work very well because all 'ML' movements have been left-wing of capital. The USSR still suffered from crisis of overproduction etc

#8,1 )) Name: Anonymous @ 2021-01-11 06:57

>>6
Don't really know how to explain post-leftism besides "you know it when you see it." I would call it political cynicism (the school that's harsher than stoicism and pretty zen). It has a different approach to establishing a post-capitalist society. There's all kinds of ways to live comfortably and even live with the minimal amount of mandatory work required for living in my country. Post-leftist thought has way more of an anti-work, follow your passions attitude than ML. Bob Black's article on the San people is pretty interesting when compared with ancom / ansyn / ML (and "workerist") texts.

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